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Thursday, May 5th, 2005
3:25 pm
[winterbadger]
rambly thoughts
I was sitting around after a meeting yesterday and had time to kill, so I was thinking a bit more about PV. Read more...Collapse )

Current Mood: thoughtful
2:18 pm
[john_arundel]
Characters in PAXVIC
Characters have three attributes which define who they are as a person and what they can do. Physical Ability, Mental Ability, and Spirit. Characters also have three non-physical attributes which define who they are within society and what they can do (and not do). These attributes, more than the ones above, will be the focus of this game. Deftly managing your Status, Rank and Reputation are the heart and soul of this simulation.

Physical Ability is a measure of the characters strength, stamina, and general health. If you are involved in close combat or some other dangerous or strenuous work, it will be your physical abilities that determine your success. If you are wounded or come down with an illness, it is this same attribute which will affect your rate of recovery.

Mental faculties reflect the characters intelligence, initiative and ability to reason. Everything from Military strategy and investment decisions, to the success of an essay or book, to the outcome of parliamentary debates are dependent on you mental faculties.

Sprit defines willpower, courage and the ability to preserve in unpleasant situations. In addition to aiding in your attempts to achieve tasks that require a great deal of courage to succeed, Spirit may be used to provide to create sparkling party talk, flirt with the Dukes niece or to otherwise persuade another to come around to your way of thinking through an emotional appeal.

Status defines what level of society a character is born into. Changes in Status only come with major life changes and only a little unless something extraordinary happens. Someone may be knighted for gallantry, someone may be given a peerage sort of as a "lifetime achievement award," or a relative may die and leave one a title, but very few people are going to get promoted in status for any short-term achievement. Most people in Victorian society will live there entire lives without changing their status.

Rank is a measure of your accomplishment within your profession. Gains in rank will be primarily through your own efforts, and (depending on circumstances) you can do so relatively quickly within the framework of game time. And rank won't go away unless you do something really bad (and sometimes even then!) The effects of Rank are generally localized to your profession. Army people have no time for navy people; the military condescend to the church, and everyone thinks politicians are a bunch of whipped-up rabble-rousers.

Reputation can make or break a man. Actions during the game can lead to quick short-term gains (or losses!) in reputation. Reputation is used to increase your influence. But that over time these fade. Really severe losses or really heroic gains in reputation will have a lingering effect, but small gains or losses can be erased just by the passage of time.
Friday, April 22nd, 2005
11:47 am
[winterbadger]
Peter wrote:

The middle of the Century is fine. There is a definite difference in flavor (even to the uninitiated) between early Victorian (India and all that) and late (Africa and all that) I think when many people think of the Victorian Era - they are thinking of the 1880s - the middle of the century might serve to mediate between the two (presumed) expectations of what the game will be like. It should move fairly fast too - with only a few Seasons of actual warfare in any one conflict (if the war follows the historical path). As an observation though - I was doing to background reading: _Victorian People_ a college textbook (extremely dry) that focused on the middle of the century (1860s-70's). The author seems to think of the most peaceful time of the era with few major wars - though a lot of internal turmoil and some major reforms in parliament. Baring the Crimea - will there be additional compelling theatres of war during this period? Do we just change things around a little to make them more compelling/surprising - but still cleave closely to historical truth? Do we want to go earlier and involve India or Latter and involve Africa/Middle east?


First off, having just read Farwell's book on small campaings and the list of campaign medals you copied from the Heliograph, I have no fear that we will lack for military action. The author you read was right that there were no *major* wars durign the 1860s, but in the 1850s and 1860s, I count nine different campaign medals, four of them with 5 bars. That's not a quiet time of peace.

We really don't have to change anything to make the 19th century compelling, and very little to make it surprising. People have this odd idea that it was a boring, quiet period, mostly because they haven't read anythign about it. There will be plenty of stuff going on in the 1850s and 1860s in Europe (the Crimea), India (the Mutiny and the frontier, plus various later expeditions), China, New Zealand, even Canada.
10:25 am
[winterbadger]
My own (rather unfocused) thoughts on these were that players would start with a basic rank and status and with no reputation.

Actions during the game can lead to quick short-term gains (or lossess!) in reputation, but that over time these fade. Really severe losses or really heroic gains in reputation will have a lignering effect, but small gains or losses can be erased just by the passage of time. "Old men forget..." "the bubble, reputation"

Status only changes with major life changes, and only a little unless something extraordianry happens. Someone may be knighted for gallantry, someone may be given a peerage sort of as a "lifetime acheivement award," or a relative may die and leave one a title, but very few people are going to get promoted in status for any short-term achievement.

Rank is in between: you can gain in rank by your own efforts, and (depending on circumstances) you can do so relatively quickly within the framework of game time. And rank won't go away unless you do something really bad (and sometimes even then!) But it's effects are much more localized to your profession. Army people have no time for navy people; the military condescend to the church, and everyone thinks politicians are a bunch of whipped-up rabble-rousers.


Quoting Taylor Peter <taylor_peter@bah.com>:

> I see your point. I have also been working on some ideas about rank,
> status (here read as class?) & reputation - more to follow shortly.
Thursday, April 21st, 2005
3:44 pm
[john_arundel]
Awards
This from http://www.heliograph.com/trmgs/trmgs3/medals.shtml

Gallantry Awards (Army/Navy; Officer/Enlisted)
Victoria Cross. Established by Queen Victoria 29.1.1856.(VC):O/E Cmbt.
Distinguished Conduct Medal. Established by Queen Victoria 4.12.1854.(DCM):E
Conspicuous Gallantry Medal. Established by Queen Victoria 1855/1874(CGM):O/E Navy
Meritorious Service Medal. Established by Queen Victoria 1845 (MSM):O/E non-cmbt.

Queen's Jubilee 1887
Long Service Good Conduct (LSGC) Awarded for 20+ years service in the British Army.
Royal Navy (RN LSGC) Awarded for 20+ years service in the Royal Navy Social Hierachy

Orders
Distinguished Service Order. Established by Queen Victoria 6.9.1886. (DSO): O

Campaign Medals

Afghan War 1842
China 1842
Meeanee 1843
Hyderabad 1843
Meeanee-Hyderabad 1843
Punniar Star 1843 (Awarded for the Gwalior Campaign)
Maharajpoor Star 1843 (Awarded for the Gwalior Campaign)
Sutlej 1845-46.
Bars:
Moodkee 1845
Ferozeshuhur 1845
Aliwal 1846
Sobraon 1846
New Zealand 1845-47
Punjab 1848-49.
Bars:
Mooltan
Chilianwala
Goojerat
South Africa 1834-35/1846-47/1850-53 (Awarded for the Kaffir Wars)
Identical Medal issued for each campaign with a different date bar.
Baltic 1854-55. (Awarded to RN & RM Service in the Baltic during the Crimean War)
Crimean War Medal 1854-56. (Awarded for the Crimean War)
Bars: Alma
Balaklava
Inkerman
Sebastopol
Azoff (Awarded to navy personnel for operations in the Sea of Azoff in 1885)
Turkish Crimea Medal (Presented by Turkish government to British, French, and Sardinian
soldiers who fought in the Crimean War. Ranks In Precedence after the LSGC Medal)
India General Service Medal (IGS) 1854.(Issued for the period 1849-1895, a total of 23 bars were awarded for campaigns that stretched over a 41 year period. I have listed 16 of the bars below that occur up to 1890.)
Bars: Pegu 1852-53 (Awarded for the Burmese War of 1852-53)
Persia 1856-57
North West Frontier 1849-68
Umbeyla 1863
Bhootan 1864-66
Looshai 1871-72
Perak 1875-76
Jowaki 1877-78
Naga 1879-80
Burma 1885-7
Sikkim 1888 (Awarded for the Skikkim Expedition)
Hazara 1888
Burma 1887-89 (Awarded for the Third Burma War)
Chin-Lushai 1889-90
Burma 1889-92
Lushai 1889-92
Indian Mutiny 1857-58.
Bars:
Delhi (May-Sept 1857)
Defence of Lucknow (June-Sept 1857)
Relief of Lucknow (Nov 1857)
Lucknow (Nov 1857-Mar 1858)
Central India (Jan - June 1858)
China 1857-60 (Awarded for the Third China War)
Bars:
Fatshan 1857
Canton 1857
Taku Forts 1858
Taku Forts 1860
Pekin 1860
New Zealand. 1861-66 (Awarded for the Maori War)
Identical to the New Zealand 1845-47 Medal, excpet for the change of dates.
Canada General Service 1866-70
Bars:
Fenian Raid 1866
Fenian Raid 1870
Red River 1870
Abyssinia 1867-70 (Awarded for The Abyssinian War)
Ashantee 1873-74 (Awarded for the Second Ashanti War)
Bar:
Coommassie
South Africa 1877-79
6 Bars:
1877
1877-8
1878
1878-9
1879 (Awarded for the Zulu War of 1879)
1877-8-9
Afghanistan 1878-80 (Awarded for the Second Afghan War)
6 Bars:
Ali Musjid
Peiwar Kotal
Charasia
Ahmed Khel
Kabul
Kandahar
Kabul to Kandahar Star (Awarded for the Second Afghan War, but only to troops who participated in the 318 mile forced march from Kabul to Kandahar.)
Cape of Good Hope General Service 1880-97
Bars:
Transkei (Sep 1880-May 1881)
Basutoland (Sep 1880-April 1881)
Bechuanaland (Dec 1886-July 1897)
Egypt 1882-89
13 Bars:
Alexandria (11 Jul 1882)
Tel-el-Kebir (13 Sep 1882)
El-Teb (29 Feb 1884) (Awarded for the Sudan 1884-85)
Tamaii (13 Mar 1884) (Awarded for the Sudan 1884-85)
El-Teb-Tamaii (Awarded for the Sudan 1884-85)
Suakin 1884 (Awarded for the Sudan 1884-85)
The Nile (1884-85) (Awarded for the Sudan 1884-85)
Abu-Klea (17 Jan 1885) (Awarded for the Sudan 1884-85)
Kirbekan (10 Feb 1885) (Awarded for the Sudan 1884-85)
Suakin 1885 (Awarded for the Sudan 1884-85)
Tofrek (22 Mar 1885)
Gemaizah (20 Dec 1888)
Toski (3 Dec 1889)
Khedives Bronze Star 1882/1884/1884-6. (Awarded for the Sudan Campaign)
Three different issues of this medal, each issue with one of the above dates inscribed upon it.
Northwest Canada 1885. (Awarded for the Northwest Rebellion)
Bars:
Saskatchewan
Fish Creek
Batoche
East & West Africa Medal 1887-1900
While a total of 21 bars will be issued for this medal, for the purposes of this article, only two fall
within the period of this article and will be listed.
Bars:
1887-8
Witu 1890
Oenotria War Medal 1889
Bars:
Avenel
Crocea
Tuesday, April 12th, 2005
2:47 pm
[john_arundel]
Stab at Hierachy
Social Hierachy

Military Religious Government Civlian Title

0 Pvt
1 NCO Currate Clerk
2 Officer Priest Bobby Knighthood
3 Lieutennant Colonel
4 Colonel Bishop Judge
5 Brigader-General
6 Lieutenant-General
7 General Minister
8 Filed Marshal
9 Crown Prince Arch Bishop. Priminister
10 Queen
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